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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:35 am 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C0veAb-CiM

I'm sure most of you have seen this before, but get's my creative juices flowing for a future project, distant future, I like GT-fours, but I really want to try drifting out properly....Perfect combo for me, probably sacrilege to others.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:03 pm 
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Still hard to beat this IMO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm2wiQBPzu8

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:58 pm 
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Who need RWD ?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:45 pm 
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Well fair point, but RWD does drift better, also if you find you have a talent for it, you need dedicated RWD to compete.
The supra was born to be a drift car, however they are pricey and also massive, I don't like big sports cars, GT-Four is big enough.

At some point I will get round to building a drift car, I would want to test the engine/driveline by maintaining a transverse engine and removing the front drive shafts. I know this would put undue stress on the drive train as it is a 50/50 split, but I have seen it done on a starlet and it seemed quite happy sliding around the track.

Do St185s have viscous coupling as well?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:06 am 
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The Starlet is FWD so if you remove the front drive shafts you'll go nowhere fast! :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:25 pm 
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Woops my bad, I meant Nissan GTIR, always get them confused, small sporty hatch backs have never been my thing- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp_w846nSo0.

Either way there are a few people on the DW forums who remove the front drive shafts on (transverse engine) AWD cars, such as the Mitsubishi GTO and going 'driftin'. I just like the idea of having a go in something unusual like a modified GT-Four.

Also for me its about the untapped market- If you can build a drift ready GT-Four within the modification rules of BDC then it opens the car up to a new scene. In turn there is an increased likely hood that more parts manufactures will re-focus their efforts on the GT-Fours.

I could go and buy a Nissan, but they are climbing in price purely due to the popularity of drifting, which we all know is half way between a serious motorsport and d#cking about.

It's just an idea, but I honestly think it is worth pursuing in the future.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:47 am 
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That pulsar is still 4wd


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:57 pm 
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Yep Ali I know, it was just an example, couldn't find the video I was looking for. Anyway I know drifting is looked down upon for being childish. Also James May has stated it "is for the unintelligent", so I will quietly back away from my sideways ambitions on the DC forums. When I have some spare cash I will just buy an neglected GT-four and have a crack at my theory. My question still stands though, are all GT-Fours viscous coupling?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:51 pm 
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Awesome when u get it right in a 4wd. Although not quite the same feeling as opposite lock of a rwd car. Think the 165 and 185s are mechanical centre differential


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:54 pm 
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Could be wrong about the 185 centre diff. Don't be quite I want to see someone going ahead with it. There is a vid on YouTube of a white st205 drifting in Japan. I did think about removing front drivshafts and welding centre diff solid but decided against it.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:19 pm 
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The only ST205 drift car I have seen had a 2jz conversion and thus a longitudinal drive-line. There's been talks on another thread about RWD conversion with lexus is200 drivetrain conected to a custom-mounted 3sgte. I just think there may be a simpler (cheaper) solution, especially if its going to taking the kind of abuse drift cars put up with.
The super strut would be a concern, too much abuse on expensive components and a macpherson conversion, which would add to the cost.

For me if the 185 has a non viscous coupling it is the prime candidate, cheap, readily available and no superstrut....oh and ultra 90s pop up headlights. Most people wouldn't want to convert their main GT-Four as it's their baby so to speak.

I would need to find a gumtree special and have a crack at it, however that may take a few years as one Celica is proving more than enough hassle at the moment. I'll do my research and maybe add to this thread in a bit, might join Driftworks and try and hunt down some ideas on transverse RWD.

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