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| Author: | macwatt [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | st 205 wrc?? |
Hi guy's I just joined and need some help! does anyone know the vin/chassis range of the st205 wrc models, one might assume they start at zero but this is not always the case. i can't get this info anywhere even toyota can't enlighten me. look forward to your replies regards mark |
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| Author: | two_OH_five [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:38 pm ] |
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I don't know if there is a specific range for wrc models. I don't think they're necessarily in the 0 to 2500 range. If you're trying to identify whether a car is a wrc look for the additional equipment - antilag valve on the chargecooler is most obviois but is quite often removed. Take a look at the extreme top left of the turbo heatshield under the chargecooler. If you can see a large bolt head in a cutout in the sheild it's an atilag manifold ad hence a wrc model |
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| Author: | TrackToyFour [ Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:00 am ] |
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Hi Mark, welcome to our little corner of GT-Four land. The VIN/Chassis Plates for the UK spec and JDM ST205's respectively do not seem to be consecutively numbered so you can't rely on them for identification of the 2500 WRC homologation cars. Having said that, the early 1994 cars all seem to have a low VIN/Chassis number, as you might expect. If you use the features described by Steve above this is pretty well foolproof. |
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| Author: | macwatt [ Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:33 am ] |
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Thanks guys, i was nosing about under the bonnet yesterday and spotted the three spay nozzles winking at me from the back of the bumper so i imedietly jumped on the 'extra goodies' link and she has all five of the extras! so i guessed she was a wrc but vin is out of the 2500 range so really wanted to confirm it was a genuine one rather than someone added bits to, the vin is low but was sold to me as a straight 205, guess nobody knew what it was? lucky me!! 
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| Author: | TrackToyFour [ Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:05 am ] |
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Generally there isnt a price difference between WRC and non-WRC ST205's. I've kept my JDM ST205WRC pretty well as it came off the production line apart from an enforced change of turbo by the previous owner when the original failed. Most owners have modded their Fours so its pretty unusual to find a standard one these days. Post up some pics when you get a chance. |
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| Author: | Sirius [ Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:46 pm ] |
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The old 'WRC or not' page on the old ST205.net website used to list that the WRC's were 2500 of the first 5000 cars but not consecutively numbered. Cheers 
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| Author: | Gary ST165 [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: st 205 wrc?? |
macwatt wrote: Hi guy's I just joined and need some help! does anyone know the vin/chassis range of the st205 wrc models, one might assume they start at zero but this is not always the case. i can't get this info anywhere even toyota can't enlighten me. look forward to your replies regards mark The no longer active "Russian site" http://www.toyota.mnc.ru/framno/STindex.html indicated that ST205 production started with VIN # ST205-0001001  ^^^ from http://web.archive.org/web/20041115110640/toyota.mnc.ru/framno/ST205.html The Toyota Electronic Parts Catalogue goes a step further... if you identify the part number for lets say the unique WRC exhaust manifold with anti lag pipes... it states that these are only for 3sgte 9402 > 9404 eg February, March, April 1994   Using the EPC i have established that ST205-0004421 was the last car to be built in April 1994, and that ST205-0004422 was the first car off the production line in May 1994. Whether it is factually correct to state that all WRC have a VIN # equal or less than ST205- 0004421 .... i dunno! We used to have a WRC register on the OC with the range of actual WRC VIN numbers from owners cars. however some of that info has since been lost through site upgrades. i found this using the "waybackmachine" the last archive dated as of 30th September 2007 http://web.archive.org/web/20070930174633/http://www.gt4oc.net/owners/owners_registers.php?type=205WRC Quote: ST205WRC Owners Register
You must be logged in to add yourself or edit your details. Owner Number Paul King 183 Daniel Hughes 766 matthew roberts 884 gary henderson 1109 Bengt Lammasniemi 1113 Dan Barber 1127 John Harrison 1130 James Whiteman 1175 Stuart Ingham 1216 Clarence Tang 1220 Ash Beeson 1246 Stephen Jeeves 1261 1261 Nyle Bassilious 1268 1297 Nathan Lowndes 1312 Christopher Mastin 1371 Richard Radbourne (UK Car) 1412 Graham Nutt (UK Car) 1418 marcus wade 1470 Matthew Harbour 1505 Craig Elder 1586 barry wilkinson 1592 Geoff Tate (uk car) 1601 Paul Wigzell (UK car) 1609 chris smitherman 1705 Paul Sweeney 1720 coxy 1751 Peter Foreman 1816 Steven Dora 1816 matthew byrne 1905 paul beckett 1913 Kennet Climpson 1978 Craig Thompson 1980 colin shiels 1983 Mike Barnes 2007 Jeff Sanderson (UK car) 2031 Iain Gard 2048 Clint Godde (Australian Delivered) 2063 Martin Farrell 2082 Jan-Willem Ligtelijn 2107 Steve Holbrow (UK car) 2117 Mitchell Cunningham (aus. del.) 2151 Barry Schleswick 2212 Lance Platt 2224 Darren Railton 2249 Mark Coakley 2273 Mikey Johnson 2277 colin Mclelland 2277 mike Hopkinson 2318 Col Day 2394 Lee Monckton 2472 LEE FOSTER 2517 Nik Delahunty 2582 Mark CL 2594 Alex Knight 2608 Don Boyack 2617 Willie Deas 2653 Di & Jake Turner 2786 roger cottrell 2811 Craig Lloyd 2828 Gareth Phillips 2850 Andrew Lee 2875 Gary Nicholson 2890 Chris Mann 2894 Jon Barnes 2999 Len Barker 3008 dale hodges 3008 Kaho Cheung 3062 Keith Fleet 3090 James Drake (uk car) 3122 MARKL860TUP 3187 Shaun Kemp 3200 Alan Meneely 3248 Asim Ali 3272 ross davidson 3314 steve hirst 3346 James Gent 3454 Andy Stott 3548 Chris Brain 4095 Alex Sakutukwa 4817 |
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| Author: | two_OH_five [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:01 pm ] |
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i also don't know how chassis numbers are effected by jdm vs eu chassis numbers. Is there a jt164#00001 and a st205#00001 fer instance |
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| Author: | Gary ST165 [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:08 pm ] |
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example: Jeff's UK WRC 
By entering the UK / EU chassis number starting JT164... etc and pressing search, the EPC populates the frame number as ST205 0002031 , it also tells us the build date and paint colour code
hence that to me suggests that there is only one 2031 frame number... however what i don't understand is the relationship to the 700xxxx frame numbers listed on the Russian site. |
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| Author: | dale [ Fri Jan 01, 2010 3:17 pm ] |
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im fairly sure the frame numbers where unique, if not and there were multiples of for example my number 5132 then there would be 10's of thousands of st205's roaming the streets, and i see to be honest, none on my daily driving. maybe 1 a week other than mine and thats only because he lives on my way to work |
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| Author: | TrackToyFour [ Fri Jan 01, 2010 3:24 pm ] |
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I've always assumed the last four digits are unique to the combined VIN and Chassis numbers. |
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