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| Author: | bigdan420 [ Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Extended wheel nuts on the rear st205 .... |
Hi guys im having trouble getting the hub off, I dont know if its all connected to the main bit with all the suspension components attatched to it, Can anyone tell me if i have to take the whole thing off the car or can i just take off the part with the studs set in it? The only reason im doing it is because my new wheels are 10mm out and obviously its a stupid idea to just put spacers on the normal studs lol so when i go over 100mph the car starts shaking i no its nothing else because on the way to get my wheels i did over 100 easy and on the way back i tried it and my bumhole shrunk so quick it bit the seat haha dont want that havnt got any pics im afraid anyone help? Thanks in advance |
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| Author: | Sirius [ Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:28 pm ] |
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You shouldn't have to take the hub out to replace the wheel studs - they should just pop out the back with a hammer. ? |
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| Author: | Kris [ Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:59 pm ] |
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Quote: so when i go over 100mph the car starts shaking i no its nothing else
Are you sure the wheels are located properly on the hub? They should fit over the small lip on the hub to correctly centre the wheel - i.e. centre bore. This must be correct or the consequences can be dire... |
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| Author: | Diceman [ Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Extended wheel nuts on the rear st205 .... |
bigdan420 wrote: my bumhole shrunk so quick it bit the seat haha
dont want that havnt got any pics im afraid Thank god for that! If your wheels are 10mm out I assume you have got the wrong offset and purchased wheels from a subaru with an offset of around 45mm as opposed to the regular celica aftermarket of 35mm? If so the centre bore diameter is probably wrong which doesn't centre the wheels on the hub properly and 1) is dangerous, 2) allows your wheels to vibrate about. Celica centre bore = 54.1mm Subaru centre bore = 56.1mm close enough to make you think they are OK. |
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| Author: | TrackToyFour [ Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:48 pm ] |
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Not many people realise that its the centre bore spigot which takes most of the loads from the wheel. The wheel studs and nuts simply stop the wheel rotating. It is VITAL that the wheel centre bore is a correct match to the hub spigot. That's why aftermarket wheels are generally sold with a separate centre bore 'ring' to match the car hub spigot diameter. |
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| Author: | bigdan420 [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:19 pm ] |
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Oh wow the help you get on here is just.... Basically all i needed to know was how to get extended nuts on my rear hubs... I dont have a problem with the spigot as the wheel fits perfect it dont move about when i put it on the studs not at all it is the spacer problem that is doing my head in |
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| Author: | two_OH_five [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:39 pm ] |
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the flange will need to be pulled with either a 3 leg puller or a slide hammer However, I thought the rear hub allowed stud removal as long as you rotate each stud to the right spot - might be wrong on that |
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| Author: | Kris [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:59 pm ] |
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Quote: I dont have a problem with the spigot as the wheel fits perfect it dont move about when i put it on the studs This is the point that people are trying to help you with... for your own safety! It won't move about when on the studs. The wheel must locate properly on the centre bore of the alloy and hub or you'll stress the studs and then snap them - the wheel will then fall off! For the studs - hammer them out and hammer new ones back in... Quote: Oh wow the help you get on here is just....
Remarks like this aren't condusive to obtaining help |
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| Author: | Diceman [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:07 pm ] |
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I think people are trying to help you ensure you have diagnosed the issue properly. If you are getting vibrations at 100mph plus and on the basis that it only started when you had the wheels fitted then I can only see a few causes. 1) the wheel centre bore is not correct and is a safety issue. 2) the wheels are not balanced correctly. 3) the offset being 10mm out could mean that your tyre is rubbing on the strut - again a safety issue and should be easy to see if you new tyres are started to get polished on the inner tyre wall face. The wheels being 10mm out on offset alone would not cause the car to start shaking unless you either have something loose or you have intereference between a moving part and non moving part. Maybe you have already diagnosed the problem but you didn't mention what is actually causing the vibration. |
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| Author: | bigdan420 [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:52 pm ] |
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ok guys sorry if i sounded like a *bleep* on my last comment its just i was expecting people telling me how to remove the hub. The wheels was brought off ebay from a shop in manchester the title said celica gt4 st205 fitment as far as wheels go thats all i thought i needed to know and obviously offset i know these are a et45 and thats why im fitting spacers which brings me to extended wheel nuts.. i have got the old ones out no problem soon as i did that and realised the new ones which are like 15mm longer just wont go in level. so i got around that issue by drilling the whole which the pin goes into that holds the handbrake shoes on and finally got each stud in the holes then what shud happen cant get the fuckers in and cant get a hammer in there to smack them in the hub tried a socket and the wheel nut but the stud didnt move and the socket cracked lol now were down to a hub puller to see if that can force them in well tommorow anyways can i buy these spigot rings? just incase u guys am right and because ive never in my life heard about them didnt think about them lol Thanks |
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| Author: | Diceman [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:57 pm ] |
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A couple of links Most good alloy wheel centres will be able to source them for you. http://www.spigotrings.com/shop/ http://www.customspigotrings.co.uk/ |
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| Author: | Sirius [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:26 pm ] |
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A socket should work providing that you ensure that the holes in the hub are nice and clean - use a little sandpaper on them and use some copperslip to reduce the friction between the metal surfaces. In addition to this use an impact socket rather than a crva one. |
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| Author: | Sunny [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:09 pm ] |
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Hi, there should be a slot on the backside of the hub to replace the studs without dismounting everthing, i replaced a friends ones last summer greetz |
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| Author: | Meurz [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Extended wheel nuts on the rear st205 .... |
Diceman wrote: Celica centre bore = 54.1mm
ST185 is indeed. ST205 = 55.0 mm. Even that small of a difference (0.9 mm) is noticable! I found out with wobbling 205 rotors on 185 hubs: http://turbocelica.nl/541vs550mm.htm |
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| Author: | bigdan420 [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:37 am ] |
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hi guys thanks for the replies, SIRIUS i would have used an impact socket but didnt have any deep ones as these studs am long. SUNNY me and my old man was sitting looking and fiddling about for hours trying to see if it was possible any other way but inevitably we had to drill the backing plate and the horror still goes on as the studs need to be pressed or hammered in and as the hub is on the car and i have loads of things in the way swinging a hammer is not easy lol I will go and get some spigot rings from the alloy shop by me ill take the car and get him to measure the inside diameter of the wheel as my vernier wont go in keeps catching on the wheel lol |
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