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Author:  Meurz [ Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Replacing brake hardlines
Did a search and found some info on replacing corroded brake lines from under the car, but if I was to replace them myself - with new mr. T lines, do I have to count on a few hours work? Day? Week? Etc? :? I have a 2 post ramp/lift I can use.

I haven't ditched the idea of running braided lines (inside?) yet, just looking at my options here.. Only thing I know fure sure is I'm keeping the ABS. :)

Thanks!
Author:  TrackToyFour [ Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:06 am ]
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I think its cheaper and simpler to replace the brake lines with hard lines. I guess if you've got all the correct flaring tools etc then it could be a DIY job. It would probably take a couple of days. I'd want to make sure it was all done correctly .... any mistakes could prove very costly :shock:
Author:  Meurz [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:05 pm ]
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Had a chat with mr. T today and as usual they've managed to let my face look like :shock: again..

Brake hardlines + fuel lines replacement:

Approx 1200 euro, thats with man hours (8-10 they quoted) but without BTW (like your VAT, only it's 19% here). I get 15% discount at my local dealer, but still it's quote some money..

Braided all the way? :roll:
Author:  two_OH_five [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:09 pm ]
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How much if you just buy Toyota lines and fit them yourself?

I don't know what labour rates are over there but here 8-10 hours would cost 80-100euro at Toyota rates
Author:  Meurz [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:15 pm ]
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How hard is it to fit them myself? I don't have special tools for it.. The labour is 68 euro an hour so more than half of the total quote.
Author:  two_OH_five [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:28 pm ]
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It's going to depend really

Technically it's not that hard but

You'll need to be undoing a whole lot of nuts and bolts unserneath the car. After nearly 20 years this is always going to be a lottery in terms of sheared and rounded bolts

I **think** the tank will have to come out to fir new fuel lines too (although you'll need to do that if you fit new flexi hoses all the way). These are notorious for giving rustly bolt issues
Author:  Meurz [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:01 pm ]
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So I don't need special tools then? That sounds nice. Think I'll give it a shot then.. Seems not THAT bad looking at the EPC:

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The ABS spaghetti in the enginebay is fine, only the lines underneath the car are not. So that cuts it down to 2 lines (and a few new clips):

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Author:  Prochorus familiaris [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:13 pm ]
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My lines goes through the saloon, so the corrosion now is out of risk.
Author:  Meurz [ Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:48 am ]
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I might go down that road in the future. For now I ordered new OEM hardlines. Do you have a picture of your setup? :)
Author:  Prochorus familiaris [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:42 pm ]
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No, have not.

But will do it in ocassion.
Author:  DeeCee [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:06 pm ]
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You should have gone the copper nickel hardlines like I suggested Rene - could have upgraded to 10mm fuel lines :lol:
Author:  Meurz [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:12 am ]
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And spend 60 gazillion europounds on AP Racing fluid to fill them?! :lol:

I'll go with custom lines in the future mate.. For now new mr. T's should be fine. I got loads of other plans to do first too.. :wink:
Author:  DeeCee [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:56 am ]
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don't use gazillion europound racing fluid then :P
I'm sure that there are alternatives without having to spend big dollars on big name brand stuff..

we all have other plans - its always the way isn't it haha
Author:  datajon [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:06 pm ]
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don't use copper brake lines.. full stop.I know its easy to bend and flare but its totally s*it.

use Cupro-Nickel guaranteed against the effects of weather and seasonal road salt.. :wink: plus they are rated to 3120 psi/ 215 bar..

you will need to use a proper flaring tool not a cheap one to do the job proper, or buy the over price toyota ones..
Author:  datajon [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:07 pm ]
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Ps. if building for competition use run braided lines inside
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